So, I thought that by making a post out of her comment the other day, as well as responding to it for everyone else to read, that it would encourage a discussion between her and I and everyone. But I thought wrong.
Rather than contribute here, or respond to my comment on her blog where she bashed the “fat basher” (me), she has written more posts to her readers talking about me.
She says this:
Studiously ignoring Mr. Fatphobia USA in the hope that he will disappear quietly. I haven’t censored him or anything, I just don’t need to stress out about that right now. I had quite enough of it on this website where people yelled at you if you were fat, yelled at you if you dared complain that people treat you differently when you’re fat, and yelled at you for picking the “wrong” weight-loss program. I can’t win anyway, so it is pointless. I posted more for other readers at his blog than I did for his sake; his type tends to let it go in one ear and out the other and be just as obnoxious afterward. Again… it is what it is.
I don’t know what website she is talking about, but it is clearly not this one. She is avoiding me so she doesn’t get stressed out, and she says she can’t win, so it is pointless. If someone is absolutely sure of their viewpoint, and has things to back it up with, what is there to get stressed about?
Speaking of things to back up her opinion… her latest post claims it is time she “pulled out the big guns” against me.
Here’s a few web links she came up with that are supposed to shut me up, I guess.
This article basically shows that thin people get diabetes too (duh), but in the authors case, it was of course due to not only family history, but poor eating habits, namely high-carbs.
Here we have a man’s story about his relationship with diabetes. First he talks about his father, who is 72 and dieing from the disease, but was an athlete when he was younger. The author, 6’6″ and 220 pounds at 12% body fat, says he is fit but has always been aware of the diseases that run in his family. He finds out that he is suffering from “reactive hypoglycemia” (some call it the “thin mans diabetes”) which puts his blood glucose levels on even more of a roller coaster ride than hyperglycemia, which is an indicator of pre-diabetes. This after he admits to it being hard to shop low-carb because he is used to his bachelor diet, that included “frozen dinners and pizzas, cereal, cookies and other desserts, and snack foods. Bread, pasta, rice, and potatoes.”
The story ends with with the author telling us that his fasting blood glucose level is now below 100, due to proper diet and exercise. Something that I advocate in practically every post.
A new study found that being physically active can considerably, but not completely, lower the risk of cardiovascular disease associated with being overweight or obese. […]
The risk of coronary heart disease, they found, increased as BMI increased. Obese women were over twice as likely to have a coronary event as women in the normal weight category. Overall, the women who were physically active were 31% less likely to have coronary heart disease than those who weren’t active.
Hmm… So far, fat=unhealthy, and inactivity=unhealthy. I think this next quote is where her point lies:
This study adds to a growing body of evidence showing that physical activity can help you live longer, regardless of whether you have excess weight.
So, exercise is beneficial to all sizes. Her “point” falls flat when it is revealed that she didn’t read two sentences further:
Although walking and physical activity significantly reduced the risk of coronary heart disease among the overweight and obese women in this study, their risk didn’t drop as low as normal-weight women. [my emphasis]
I’ve said here before that when we’re talking about not a lot of excess weight, it is very possible to be more fit and disease free than a person of normal weight that gets no exercise. But, as we see here, a non-overweight person that exercises is more likely to be healthier than an overweight or obese person that exercises.
Conclusions Mediterranean and low-carbohydrate diets may be effective alternatives to low-fat diets. The more favorable effects on lipids (with the low-carbohydrate diet) and on glycemic control (with the Mediterranean diet) suggest that personal preferences and metabolic considerations might inform individualized tailoring of dietary interventions.
According to the study, the participants lost more weight and lowered their cholesterol more with a low-carb approach than the ones that followed the Mediterranean or the low-fat diet. What I found interesting about the low-carb diet that was suggested to the participants, is that they “were counceled to choose vegetarian sources of fat and protein and to avoid trans fat.” This could be one of the reasons their cholesterol went down.
Thanks for the link to this study, Dana. I’m not sure how it’s supposed to shut me up, but it was interesting.
Did you know that 2 out of 3 people with diabetes die from heart disease and stroke? Make the Link! Diabetes, Heart Disease and Stroke is an initiative of the American Diabetes Association and the American College of Cardiology, aimed at increasing awareness of the link between diabetes and heart disease.
Make the Link! stresses that diabetes management is more than control of blood glucose. People with diabetes must also manage blood pressure and cholesterol and talk to their health provider to learn about other ways to reduce their chance for heart attacks and stroke.
Besides links to some related information, I cut and pasted the entire content of that page here. That is all it says. What is the point of showing me this? On her blog she thinks that this link will show that diabetes is caused only by glucose metabolism, and has nothing to do with being fat. On that note, let’s take a look at the next link she provides us…
Compared to the risk of contracting diabetes among normal-weight individuals, health studies indicate that the risk for type 2 diabetes is about twofold in the mildly obese (BMI 30+), fivefold in moderately obese (BMI 35+) and tenfold in morbidly obese persons (BMI 40+). [my emphasis]
Losing weight helps reduce the risk of type 2 diabetes. Clinical trials show that a 10 percent weight loss can lead to significant improvements in diabetes.
After providing this link, she says to ignore any indication that being overweight is associated with getting the disease, and she suggests that it is the other way around, that diabetes causes weight gain. So, she provided a link that says overwhelmingly that A -> B, but she insists that it really means that B -> A. Right.
This link is provided in an effort to discredit the American Diabetic Association, probably due to their suggestion that excess fat causes any problems with diabetes whatsoever. She thinks this site says that the ADA is telling diabetics to eat sugar. In actuality, this site says that less carbohydrates should be eaten in an effort to control blood glucose levels.
Carbohydrate-containing foods raise blood glucose levels. By keeping track of how many carbohydrates you eat and setting a limit for your maximum amount to eat, you can help to keep your blood glucose levels on track.
Again, I don’t think she even read the content on this link. By the way, I didn’t mention that Dana also commented on my recent post about the ADA, here, in which I question their efforts to help diabetes sufferers. This, however, does nothing to discredit the fact that a way to prevent and reverse diabetes is by eating right, exercising, and keeping your weight down.
So, what does all this tell us? What does it mean that every single link she provided not only doesn’t support her argument, but actually supports everything I’ve ever said?
Either in haste to prove me a monster, she did some searches and after only reading the headlines and maybe the first sentence or two she accidentally showed me links to sites arguing the wrong side…
Or… actually I can’t think of any other reason.
This is what she says after providing these 6 helpful links:
As far as I’m concerned, people who know nothing about human metabolism should not tell others what to do about their own. This is just the tip of the iceberg. If you ever want to be anything more than mediocre yourself, do what I did and READ. Stray from the mainstream echo chamber about diet, exercise, and health, and strike out on your own, and learn a thing or two.
All I’ve ever done is advocate healthy eating and exercise. What healthy eating means, I may have speculated about, but I’ve never said “YOU HAVE TO EAT THIS WAY”. This is obviously not a diet blog. Also, I think we both know who the one not reading is, after this debacle.